Is the Ray Stevenson Punisher a Continuation of the Thomas Jane Punisher

• #25

His 10 minute clip was more like the comic books than all the movies put together. Although I didn't particularly like Jane's movie all too much, being a frequent reader of the character, I would have to say that he understands. He gets how Frank Castle is.

Baresark said:

The Thomas Jane Punisher was by far the absolute best one.

Though the movie was better, the way they did the story bothered me since I read all the comics. Personally, as far as looks go, I think Ray Stevenson is the better Punisher.

I think he looks the part better. Tom Jane comes off as too...pretty?

• #26

Thomas Jane is a very sexy man, but I think he pulls off the "look" of the Punisher very well. YMMV. But with the number of different artists who have worked on the character over the years, I don't think there's an overly specific visual identity attached to it. Big, dark hair, scowls a lot, likes black. Beyond that, there's plenty of room for interpretation.

And no, limbs don't work like that and whiskey doesn't work like that, but as someone else pointed out, so what? This is comic book violence. And it's awesome!

• #28

Baresark said:

The Thomas Jane movie was based on the run by Garth Ennis, which I think he handled the best in recent memory as far as the writing was concerned. I also feel that Ray Stevenson's Punisher could have been better if the movie writing wasn't absolute crap.

Actually both movies were based on Ennis' work. Specifically the Jane one was based on "Welcome back Frank" reboot after that heaven punisher debacle. A good chunk of Warzone was Punisher Max villians, which Garth Ennis wrote the majority of. In fact, I think all of villains from Punisher Max written by Ennis were in the movie. Specifically volumes 1-6.

I do agree that Warzone writting was pretty bad.

• #30

I'm torn inbetween saying:
Thomas Jane as the punisher again, I must be dreaming.
And
Thomas Jane was the best live-action punisher, period.

• #32

Baresark said:

I didn't realize he did the Max stuff as well. I guess I just have a tendency to avoid the non continuity stuff. Part of my love of comics was always the fact that the entire universe was on one continuum. I tried the various Max/Knights books, but they were just endless strings of violence with not a whole lot of story to tell in the interim, at least in my little experience. You clearly have more experience with them than I do, so I digress. Either way, I think a return to movies that were like the 2004 Punisher would be awesome.

I liked the Max stuff because it was fairly grounded in reality to a certain degree. It was kind of like a "What if he was real" series. He dealt with the mob a lot and even killed off sex traffickers who would kidnap woman from their home country.

Warzone had characters, scenes and partial story arcs in it.

Difference was that the movie, it was this guy getting impaled.

Excuse the poor photo quality, I took pictures of the pages from my books.

• #36

You know, I checked out Tom Jane's Punisher not long ago for the first time. I read up on the critiques beforehand, so didn't expect much, but I came away wondering what why they hated it so much. Seemed pretty good to me. Not exactly academy award material, but very watchable.

DVS BSTrD said:

Do all gangsters have Vrolik Syndrome?
And he never DID explain the difference.

I think the point is that justice is dished out by an appointed judiciary, whilst punishment is delivered by the person who has suffered at the hands of the accused. Castle allows the woman to either forgive him, or "punish" him. I think the gangster would've pretty much understood what he meant and, if not, well, guess he'll never find out.

• #37

This NEEDS to happen, Punisher deserves another movie (no I'm not counting Warzone). But next time, keep the CGI blood, understandable why it was there, but if I get a AAA movie, I want my blood to be real people!
Oh, and just as a side-note, I wish I could break a dude's arm with a bottle of Jack.

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